Sunday Funnies
So apparently there’s an online poll somewhere that asks whether people approve of those big-ass Confederate flags out on the highway. And apparently the “disapprove” votes are leading at the moment. There’s also a “secede now” option that barely moves the needle. But, of course, that’s because globalist librul conspiracy:
Because Americans not only support the Confederate flag, they also support secession from America. Or something like that.
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… must be the “PC” police screwing up the interwebs.
Maybe Zombie Saul Alinsky.
I wonder if the zombie Saul Alinsky. has 12 rules for the internet?
Is it Alamance County Taking Back Alamance County (ACTBAC NC), a group that hopes to begin erecting up to 28 Confederate flags along I-40 some time in October? I know there was a similar poll recently in a Burlington, NC newspaper that showed similar results, which the group’s founder, Gary Williamson, attributed to a few folks clearing their cache multiple times so they could vote over and over again. I don’t know that their effort will come to anything, but I’ve been keeping an eye on the group lately as I live not too far away.
The group’s website is here:
http://southernheritagepreservation.org/index.html
Yes, the poll is about that group.
Actbac’s Fundly page says it’s a non-profit organization. Do you know if that’s true?
These polls are nothing but click bait. I find it interesting how these groups will use these polls as evidence of great support while ignoring surveys conducted with validation or the reality of the public rejecting the lost cause mentality.
Raise another flag! Lose another election! What did the flag raising accomplish? Nothing.
They cannot educate with lies anymore. People are seeing through the myths. The facts contradict the lost cause lies. They can paint the roads in CBF’s and it won’t change the facts.
That’s what kills me about this particular Facebook post. The person is claiming that the poll is inaccurate because it’s being manipulated, in a thread that is encouraging readers to go and manipulate the poll.
Exactly!
The Oxford Eagle ran a poll on the university (Ole Miss) no longer playing dixie and it showed about 90% against the university. This poll got a little boost from the Virginia Flaggers and other heritage groups encouraging members via social media to vote. However, the student newspaper ran an editorial supporting the university as did the local paper (Oxford Eagle)
While not scientific, I think the vote split is closer to 50/50 with younger people supporting the university and the support falling off as the demographic ages. That’s just my take on it from ground level. .
http://thedmonline.com/dm-staff-editorial/
“However, the student newspaper ran an editorial supporting the university as did the local paper (Oxford Eagle)
While not scientific, I think the vote split is closer to 50/50 with younger people supporting the university and the support falling off as the demographic ages.”
That conforms generally to polling on similar questions; responses are heavily influenced by basic demographics, specifically race and age.
Part of the heritage mantra is that support for their positions is both wide and deep, and they point to all sorts of numbers as “evidence” of it, such as Facebook “likes” and open, online opinion polls. But I don’t recall ever seeing a heritage group take some of the money they’ve collected and hire a professional polling outfit to do a proper poll and generate numbers that actually have some heft.
That conforms generally to polling on similar questions; responses are heavily influenced by basic demographics, specifically race and age.
I figure age plays a big roles in these things.
As a bit of a side note, I can’t help but notice the responses posted by dixie supporters (and heritage types in general) use terms like liberal, PC, socialist, communist, and butthurt in reference to people on the opposite end of this issue. There’s also a lot of unhenged emotion on display.
“As a bit of a side note, I can’t help but notice the responses posted by dixie supporters (and heritage types in general) use terms like liberal, PC, socialist, communist, and butthurt in reference to people on the opposite end of this issue. There’s also a lot of unhenged emotion on display.”
Much of that is cliched jargon, repeated so often it doesn’t have much real meaning anymore.
Confederate heritage, as it manifests itself online, is what academics would call a form of cultural, political, and religious tribalism. It’s about both defining one’s own group, as well as the “other” — the latter, in this case, being political correctness, liberals, communists, academics, craven politicians, Black Lives Matter, etc. If you follow these folks on social media, you’ll see that they spend a lot of their time identifying and targeting various people and organizations who (they’ve decided have betrayed them in one way or another. Vanderbilt University, Jack Daniels whiskey, and the Southern Baptist Convention have all been added to the list recently. It’s a very long list.
They often assure each other that their movement enjoys wide and deep support, and that a day of reckoning will soon come when the Sons and Daughters of the South will rise up in their millions and put an end to the cultural genocide supposedly being inflicted on the South. But in truth, these very loud folks are very few in number, and while they believe passionately in their cause, all they are really accomplishing is to isolate themselves further and further from the rest of the world.
…and they think support for the flag is wide and deep. No internet poll is necessary to understand why this group doesn’t want to be associated with the confederate flag. I can’t help but laugh.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/08/22/gun-rights-group-asking-members-leave-confederate-flags-home-sunday/3s17cGGgshYMdgcSWkuQIL/story.html
For a year or more before the Charleston shootings, the League of the South was working hard to separate itself from the Confederacy. It was part of a larger effort to make them look more upscale, mainstream, and respectable. They instituted a dress code, and explicitly prohibited members from bringing Confederate flags to their rallies, because they felt that those would be a distraction, and any media coverage they got would focus on that, rather than their message about modern-day politics and secession. Confederate flags disappeared almost completely from their publications, from their website, and elsewhere. That’s also why they adopted their current flag, which is white with a black saltire cross — similar in overall configuration to the battle flag, but in entirely different colors and without stars.
All that changed very quickly after Charleston, when they realized that they had an opportunity in the pushback against the Confederate flag. It gave them an opportunity to reach out to Confederate fan boys who were upset and angry and wanted an outlet to ” protect their heritage” or whatever. So almost overnight, the League of the South became the biggest supporters of the Confederate battle flag you ever saw. It’s cynical, and it’s opportunistic, but it’s not in the least surprising.
Andy,
Using the words upscale, mainstream and respectable in the same paragraph with the League of the South is really funny!!! LOL
I hear you. But they were/are really very, very determined to make themselves respectable and palatable to the general public. It wasn’t just flags, it was a dress code, it was professionally-printed signs and fliers, all sorts of things to make them look organized and structured and appealing — like a real political party, not a bunch of backwoods klansmen.
Part of the irony of this is that this effort to mainstream League of the South and other white supremacist groups was largely led by Brad Griffin of Alabama. Griffin is married to the daughter of the late founder of the Council of Conservative Citizens, the organization that the shooter in Charleston credited with setting him off on his ideological journey.
Andy,
Don’t get me wrong, I think that these groups should be taken seriously. Regardless of who wins the election the other side isn’t going away and I fear this divisiveness will be with us for a long time.
BaHahahaha!
Sadly one of these rags stains my county in Central Virginia.
As if driving on I-95 wasn’t depressing enough…
Putting up highway flags on private land seems to be the one thing they’re good at. But it remains what it was when they started three years ago — a fundamental shift away from their original, stated purpose, which was to have Confederate flags replaced in specific places where they had been taken down.
What I want to know is how do you put yourself in line for some of that sweet Soros cash? I mean, do you have to put a notice out — “Will troll for money” — or is there a website where you sign up? (Btw, Andy, for future reference, the preferred usage is “lie-brul” not “librul”.)