Dead Confederates, A Civil War Era Blog

Stupid is as Stupid Does, Y’all.

Posted in Memory by Andy Hall on March 30, 2014



It doesn’t bother me that Texas Tech in Lubbock has decided to let students display Confederate flags from their dorm room windows, so much as the fact that one proud Confederate Heritage™ advocate (1) chose to use it as a defacement of  a Texas state flag, and (2) then hung it upside-down.

Bless his or her heart, that poor child doesn’t have the sense God gave lettuce.




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  1. Jeff Fiddler said, on March 30, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    How is it upside down

    • Andy Hall said, on March 30, 2014 at 6:57 pm

      The point on the star goes up.

      • Jeff Fiddler said, on March 30, 2014 at 7:05 pm

        Thanks, one more bit of knowledge.

  2. Bob Nelson said, on March 30, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Right, the single point goes up. FWIW, I visited the Shenandoah two years ago with my good friend Pete Taylor and took several pictures of the monument south of Harrisonburg that marks the spot where Turner Ashby was killed in 1862. When I got home and checked those photos, they just looked odd. For starters, it was a rectangular Second Naval Jack not a CBF. Never knew that Ashby was in the Navy. LOL. But it was only when I posted the picture on one of our groups as a trivia question (“What’s wrong with this photo?) that somebody pointed out to me that it was upside down. So since then, I have looked for upside-down CBFs. It’s amazing how many are flown/displayed incorrectly. This last September on our trip to eastern Virginia, I counted about twenty in Hollywood Cemetery that were upside down.

    • Mike said, on June 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm

      During the war the stars points could have faced any way. Texas flags star usually was tilted.

      • Andy Hall said, on June 18, 2015 at 6:39 pm

        That’s not a wartime flag, or a reproduction of one.

  3. Argyle said, on March 30, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Andy, are you this intolerant of all mistakes, or just mistakes made by college kids with whom you disagree politically? For example, did you mock and ridicule U.S. District Court Judge Arenda Wright when she confused the Declaration of Independence with the U.S. Constitution? More specifically, did you say “Bless her heart, that poor woman doesn’t have sense God gave lettuce”? If not, why not?

    • Andy Hall said, on March 30, 2014 at 9:36 pm

      What the judge said certainly was dumb, and embarrassing for someone in her position. But she did also correct it in a revised copy.

      Also, keep in mind that displaying a defaced Texas flag is not a “mistake,” but a conscious and intentional choice.

      • Jeffrey Fiddler said, on March 30, 2014 at 11:33 pm

        Unlike the young lady from Minnesota who relocated Lexington and Concord had the embattled farmers to New Hampshire.  

    • Michael Rodgers said, on March 31, 2014 at 7:49 pm

      I’m pleased to see that Argyle recognizes and acknowledges that the college kid is engaging in a political act. He’s using the flag for his political purposes, whatever they are. If he just wanted to honor some ancestors — or if he just liked the design — he could hang it on his wall instead of the window. Anyway, I have no idea what the kid’s political message is, so I have no idea whether I agree with it or not.

  4. Foxessa said, on March 31, 2014 at 11:44 am

    We recently concluded a road trip through the heartland of the confederacy (the head being the coastal states, most particularly South Carolina — we did that trip last May), instead of, as usual, flying to our usual destination centers. Nary a confederate flag to be seen — except as a shirt on a crawdaddy fisher (’tis the season!) in northern Louisiana, flying from a Mississippi county seat court house, and on a Mississippi license plate — but notably not from any visitor centers in the state, even the welcome to Mississippi ones. Nowhere in Tennessee at all.

    It was encouraging to not see this on the back windows of pickups, bumper stickers and so on. But it was more visible when driving more off road. But again, this was all in Mississippi.

    One of the most important take-aways from this particular trip is a generally more concrete vision of the Mississippi River as a dividing point for the country in in general in terms of the Civil War. It’s almost as through the war was a whole other thing on the western side, with Louisiana the transport and communications hub — which got take out so effectively early on, particularly when Vicksburg was captured.

    Love, C.

    • Andy Hall said, on March 31, 2014 at 1:42 pm

      I recently took a roughly 1,200-mile driving trip across Texas and back, much of it on small country highways. I saw two Confederate flags, one of which was part of the Mississippi state flag. It’s not a huge presence over here.

      • Foxessa said, on April 4, 2014 at 11:11 am

        So it seems even more so that when it is present it is very consciously An Issue!

        This tour was the western counterpart to the Atlantic coast confederacy we did last May.

        Another take-away (besides how splendid it is to see our friends and so on) is — how easy it can be to love the south (though not Richmond, Charleston or Natchez). But then, I already knew that! 🙂

        Love, C.

    • Bob Nelson said, on March 31, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      Things have changed a great deal in the last 30 or so years. Back in the mid 80s my ex-wife and I took our fifth wheel down to Gulf Shores. On the way, we stopped at several Civil War sites including Fort Donelson, Vicksburg, Brice’s Crossroads and Spanish Fort. At some time we took a dirt road to visit a Confederate cemetery (don’t recall where but it was at the site of a Confederate Veteran’s Home). As we walked back to the parking area, we were confronted by a couple of guys in an old pickup flying a large Confederate flag. No doubt unhappy about our Michigan license plates, they did a couple of tight circles in the parking lot, hollered some obscenities and “saluted” us with their middle finger. You would definitely not find that today.

      On another trip about the same time, we flew to Charleston and spent a week. It happened to be the week that some of the private mansions in Charleston are open to the public on a “tour of homes” thing. Most had music (a harpist or string trio) and included hors d’oeuvres and champagne. When the hostess (dressed in period garb) asked us, “Where y’all from?” we replied Michigan. Her reply was “Ooh” and she never spoke to us again. Neither did anybody else. So at the next house when asked the same question we answered North Carolina and got a completely different reaction. You would also not find that today.

  5. H. E. Parmer said, on April 1, 2014 at 12:08 am

    We shouldn’t discount the possibility that we’re dealing with a redneck Satanist.

  6. msb said, on April 1, 2014 at 6:54 am

    Is his room sinking?

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