Dead Confederates, A Civil War Era Blog

The Defenders of Southron Honour, Ctd.

Posted in Memory by Andy Hall on December 18, 2012

On Sunday I put up a post on Louis Napoleon Nelson, which included a link to a complete and unedited copy of his Tennessee Confederate pension application. On Tuesday, Corey Meyer linked to it, which prompted this response from Josephine Lindsay Bass, aka “JosephineSouthern”:

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You all done it again! Such courage in the face of die hard Confederates deserves something. Just What, well, nothing comes to mind.
 
Bless Your Heart, I do think you are lucky that no one has shot you in the face or gone to your kids school and shot up the place. I wonder when the haters and dividers get their due in this country. Ah well there is always next year.

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This comes four days after a school shooting in Connecticut left twenty 6- and 7-year-olds dead, all from multiple gunshot wounds.

More of Ms. Bass’ greatest hits here.

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  1. Brad said, on December 18, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Some of these people are unreal. I just don’t get it.

  2. Rob Baker said, on December 18, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    She’s pathetic. Another bizarre example of the defenders of “heritage.” That’s a scary notion.

    • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 18, 2012 at 2:38 pm

      self-appointed defenders of Southron Honor.

      • Rob Baker said, on December 18, 2012 at 10:17 pm

        You’ve got the “self appointed” part right.

        • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 19, 2012 at 8:11 am

          Comment deleted. Let me repeat — explain in detail your original comment about me getting my “due” by being shot in the face, or having a school in my community shot up, or stop commenting.

          — AH

      • Brooks D. Simpson said, on December 19, 2012 at 6:04 pm

        Hmmm. So defending southern honor leads one to speak of threats to murder children. Really?

        • Andy Hall said, on December 19, 2012 at 6:14 pm

          Ms. Bass has been given ample opportunity to explain, in detail, what she meant. So far she has only responded with name-calling (“sheeple” seems to be a favorite) and verbose deflections as in her earlier comments here. Until she explains, specifically and directly, what she meant about me getting my “due” by being shot in the face, why she thinks a school in my community is a particular target, and what exactly she’s hoping for next year, she’s done commenting here.

  3. Cotton Boll Conspiracy said, on December 18, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    I think it’s important to separate the nut-nuts from the rational individuals who study “heritage.” (In my own definition, Southern heritage refers not just to the Confederacy but the entire period and all individuals who were a part of it.)

    I have no problem calling out individuals such as Josephine Bass for not only being borderline delusional, if not bat%&!$ crazy, but also being out of line with anyone I know associated with a Southern history organization (albeit a small number).

    I have no problem debating opposing views, but when a whackjob implies that anyone – even, say, a college professor interested only in creating controversy by stating that Jefferson Davis and Robert Lee should have been hanged for being traitors – should come to a violent demise for their beliefs, that’s someone with whom I want no connection.

    • Andy Hall said, on December 18, 2012 at 1:32 pm

      Absolutely.

      • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 18, 2012 at 1:55 pm

        Andy you really had to stretch a long long way form CT to South of the Mason Dixon Line to connect those dots; Yes, Your POLITICal agenda is bursting out of the seams. you gave just another derogatory bashing of a Southern Lady who loves her Confederate States of America. BTW, you know that horrendous CT event, well sir we would have done that differently down here. if we didn’t kill him at the door breaking in, a Southern Confederate Principal would have had the shot in the ready to take him out. Yep The very brave teacher in the other room would have lived another day, she would have shot first and asked questions later. CT, where this shooter lived, well now they have the strictest NO gun laws in the country and certainly a lot stricter than South of the Mason Dixon Line.

        Now who would never think you would believe any story handed down by a black Southern Man to his children, certainly you wouldn’t believe anything he said about slavery and so applying the same logic, of course you would NOT believe what he said his experience in the Confederate Army defending his home. It seems you believe His grandchild just like to tell his Confederate tales for the fun of it and in the face of tyrant yankee brethen.

        We understand your expected sheeple’s messages above, np. Good Day Enjoy.

        • Will Hickox said, on December 18, 2012 at 2:23 pm

          “Andy you really had to stretch a long long way form CT to South of the Mason Dixon Line to connect those dots …”

          Given recent events, it was clearly you who connected the dots. It was also in horribly bad taste.

          “… a Southern Confederate Principal would have had the shot in the ready to take him out.”

          Where might one find a Confederate principal?

          “Now who would never think you would believe any story handed down by a black Southern Man to his children, certainly you wouldn’t believe anything he said about slavery and so applying the same logic, of course you would NOT believe what he said his experience in the Confederate Army defending his home.”

          When it came to applying for benefits based on his service, Nelson was quite clear that he had been a servant and cook. Why wouldn’t he tell the “truth” about being an actual soldier on his pension application, of all places?

          • Andy Hall said, on December 18, 2012 at 2:29 pm

            “Where might one find a Confederate principal?”

            I’m still hunting for a Confederate principle.

            • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 18, 2012 at 2:44 pm

              In My Day you wouldn’t want to cross the principal – no way………………

          • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 18, 2012 at 3:30 pm

            With over 136 battles in Tennessee alone, it is more than likely that Louis Napoleon Nelson saw The Elephant and certainly participated. With a name like that how can you doubt it. If I recall correctly he was one of Gen. Forrest Men – Forrest had a lot of black soldiers in his command and they were everywhere in North Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee, and no one would have escaped a soldiers duties in that environment, unless they ran for their life, and never showed their face again. Forrest promised all of them their freedom and in a speech to a black audience after the war, Forrest said: “No better Soldiers ever lived.” So WHY would you all make it a point on the internet before GOD and EVERYBODY to discredit this man, to call him a liar to his descendants, WHY?

            • Andy Hall said, on December 18, 2012 at 3:35 pm

              This post isn’t about Louis Napoleon Nelson, it’s about your suggestion that being shot in the face, or having someone shoot up a school in my community, is my “due,” and your apparent hope that it happens soon.

              Explain yourself, your words, or stop commenting.

            • Michael Lynch said, on December 18, 2012 at 9:21 pm

              To sum up the case for Nelson’s military exploits so far:

              a) Nelson was in Tennessee, and there were a lot of battles there, so he stood a pretty good chance of fighting in at least one of them.

              b) His middle name was Napoleon, and with a name like Napoleon you’d better believe the dude was all about warfare.

              c) If he didn’t fight, none of the Confederate soldiers would’ve respected him, which would’ve been a big deal. (After all, nobody wants to be the only black guy in the Confederacy who doesn’t get any respect.)

              d) If you find primary documentation to be more credible than unsubstantiated family tradition, then you’re a closed-minded jerk who doesn’t like black people, and maybe someday you’ll get shot in the face.

              Intellectual rigor at its finest.

              • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 19, 2012 at 9:02 am

                Comment deleted by the moderator. Explain your original comment, in full, or don’t bother.

              • Cotton Boll Conspiracy said, on December 20, 2012 at 10:54 am

                Yup, that’s what I take away, as well, though I like the way you put it much better. (Particularly the second point: Nelson was going to end up in the thick of it whether he wanted to or not with a name like Napoleon, right?)

        • Andy Hall said, on December 18, 2012 at 2:35 pm

          I didn’t “bash” you, Ms. Bass. I quoted you.

        • Rob Baker said, on December 18, 2012 at 10:21 pm

          ….”loves her Confederate States of America.”

          That doesn’t exist nor did it ever.

          It’s highly unlikely that a “southern confederate principal” (what a stupid comment) would have shot him. This is primarily because guns are not allowed on school property in that manner. CT doesn’t have the strictest gun laws in the country.

          • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 19, 2012 at 9:05 am

            Comment deleted by the moderator. Explain your original comment, in full, or don’t bother.

    • Robert Moore said, on December 18, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      Could not have been better stated, CBC.

  4. Will Hickox said, on December 18, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    So here we have a person responding to someone else linking to actual historical documentation by advocating that someone shoot them or shoot up their children’s school. Not only does this display a stunning lack of perspective, but how can such people still claim they base their beliefs on facts and historical evidence?

  5. Jeff Bell said, on December 19, 2012 at 12:34 am

    It’s very sad that we are wasting valuable time and energy dealing with J.L.Bass. He/She is the type who loves to stir it up – all bluster and no substance. She plays with historic facts like they’re part of a board game and also plays the part of something like a Confederate widow – her writing style reeks of a bad antebellum novel. [Sentence deleted by moderator.] Like the song says, “A Southern Man don’t need her around anyhow.”

  6. Jeferson Moon said, on December 19, 2012 at 8:04 am

    “Explain yourself, your words, or stop commenting”
    Yes,I would very much like to have Ms.Bass explain her threats.

    • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 19, 2012 at 9:38 am

      Comment deleted by the moderator. Explain your original comment, in full, or don’t bother.

  7. Bob Huddleston said, on December 19, 2012 at 10:31 am

    I have been trying to think of something cute or humorous to post here, with a proper put-down of Ms. Bass. But all I get is sadness at her delusions.

    • Andy Hall said, on December 19, 2012 at 10:49 am

      She’s said some over-the-top things over the years that are amusing, though they were probably not intended to be. This was not one of them.

      She needs to explain herself, to take explicit ownership of those words and her intent in posting them to a public comment section. That, and nothing else. Further digressions by her about gun control laws, “seeing the Elephant,” or anything else is not welcome. I’m sure she’d rather talk about those things, or pretty much anything other than her own reprehensible behavior.

      Too bad.

      • Josephine Lindsay Bass said, on December 19, 2012 at 11:26 am

        Comment deleted by the moderator. Explain your original comment about your expectation that I should be shot in the face, or that someone would shoot up a school in my community, and that perhaps your expectation will be fulfilled next year. Explain that in full, or don’t comment.

  8. Bummer said, on December 19, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Andy,

    Bummer posted this comment on Crosswords earlier today;

    Bummer is old school and for this guy, every day above ground is a blessing. However, the world this student comes from, you would have to be mentally unhinged to “threaten” a man or his family. The threat alone, opens the door to a reality of “what ifs” and that question alone, can generate defensive tactics. As an “old guy” whose greatest possession is his family and their well-being, the statement of “shooting someone in the face” could be taken personally and should not be just disregarded as the ramblings of some demented and tortured lost soul.

    Bummer

  9. Ryan Q said, on December 21, 2012 at 2:46 am

    Oh, well, I sure am glad that a “Confederate principal” in her day would have killed the shooter. If only someone had told that to Charles Whitman in 1966 before he killed 13 people from the Bell Tower of the University of Texas, Austin.

    • Andy Hall said, on December 21, 2012 at 7:21 am

      I had a close family member caught up in that shooting — unhurt, thankfully.


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